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Really extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek blog post, that I didn't make clear ... my bad In respond to spitfirebill: I added that point due to the fact that when I had to find a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through each in every junkyard in South Jersey to discover one that had not been sludged up actually terribly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to chat about a few problems of these vans, yet I I'm plainly not going to come out and state one is much better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines after that. Allow's chat about engine and actually simply to define that the design years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have been around for a lengthy time.
And, you recognize, for a version of a Chevy van has been around since, you know, around that time too. Considering that 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a whole lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with blow to these engines, due to the fact that they really did not have adequate threading in the spark plug, which triggered issues.
If you're getting anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug issues. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leakage, they'll develop coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to replace the entire thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, because I'm speaking about issues, it's a more innovative engine. Overhead camera, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier style with press poles.
They're simply actually quite good, resilient, strong engines. You understand, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any service on them is more complex due to the fact that you've got to get rid of that cover and enter into maintenance in odd ways. But points like ignition system last an awful long period of time, so they don't require to be changed really frequently.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like means back prior to the 2000 design year.
You recognize, that's still available. If you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm just going to say a plumbing professional and you've got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a really great use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it feels like the diesels are, they appear to have less troubles in vans than they perform in the trucks. Probably since they aren't worked so hard, yet when things happen, they're actually expensive to repair. We have actually obtained a great deal of video clips and information concerning diesels, particularly the Fords.
So you actually require to assume twice about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so fit for purpose, ensure that you're suitable the engine that you're acquiring for the function that you're endeavouring to fulfill. Bernie: Yeah, specifically. And I will claim, Chevy is virtually limited to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and again, we're just chatting concerning kind of a directly, regular cargo van here. The diesel absolutely isn't the most effective option. Look at your purpose, your usage, just how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you make the choice. Mark: What about the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're basically equivalent.
Something that we haven't chatted concerning right here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends on what model, they're available ever before from half load to one load chassis and in fact several of the cutaway vans are in fact much more long lasting, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to give the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's less steering link included in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, but the, you recognize, the steering link is a lot less complex, so there's much less parts and much less products to use out.
The adventure in a Ford is probably a bit a lot more truck like yet I do not recognize if you 'd actually ever before truly observed a difference in between the 2. It seems like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some reason, they appear to last for one brake task. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be changed. So I believe on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly bad doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, really badly constructed. Actually, I would certainly claim that if you are even taking a look at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles as a whole really took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 version year, since there was a great deal of things where the brakes for circumstances would not last long in all.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I imply, I would certainly state they're both possibly quite much matching in quality, fit and finish, you know, some of the passenger vans, of course we'll have better appointments than the freight vans. I can't claim that one of them stands out to me a little even more than the various other.
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